Steve Cole
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Mon 1/19/2009 7:33 PM



Attached is a scan of the Corps of Engineers map dated 1943.  My scanner is getting old and tired and I have to do a lot of editing to remove the red and to brighten it up some.  You may want to edit it more and maybe reduce the size.  If you can’t reduce it and leave clean lines, I can do that for you or re-scan it at lower settings.

Scale:   1:100,000    Five Thousand Meter Grid Lines

Some of the information about the map in the lower LH margin can be seen in the photo scan.  



The lower RH margin is marked with printing info as:

ARMY MAP SERVICE, U. S. ARMY, WASHINGTON D.C. 114694  11-43   1943.

The Red lines are Grid Lines based upon 10,000 meters.  The grid lines drawn on this map are spaced at 5,000 meters so the distance between grid line 1170 and 1175 is 5,000 meters.  Part of the map scale key is included in the bottom of the scan.  In the field, the Army used grid coordinates and NOT the Latitude/Longitude values in degrees-minutes-seconds.  These grids were used to plot coordinates.  For example, the cemetery (marked with a Chrisitian cross) for the town of Buncombe near Rollinns Creek has the grid coordinates of

1178.6 – 1257.5

To locate this, read across the bottom and locate Grid 1175.   Divide the distance between this grid and next into 5 spaces (or use the scale) and go over 3.6 spaces or 3600 meters. 

Then using grid on left margin, Read UP to Grid line 1255.  Then divide the distance to next grid line into 5 equal spaces and read up 2.5 or 2,500 meters.

The map also has Latitude and Longitude in case you want to use those---but they are much more difficult to work with.  The bottom LH corner is marked as Longitude/Latitude of  86 deg 15 Min and 35 deg 15 Min.  The approximate Long/Lat for the town of Manchester would be 86 Deg 5 Min  and 35 Deg 30 Min.  (The numbers decrease as you go from Left to Right along the bottom.  This is shown in the scan.)

 Oh, in my first email, I referenced my aerial photo map and a town of “Smithville”; that should have been “Summittville”.

Check it out.  It might be of interest to someone researching the history of the Camp.  This map seems to be dated soon after it was established.  The map says this represents approximate boundaries and that could be a notice that this is not to be used for land purchase or something.  Maybe they had not officially surveyed the boundaries at this time.  Who knows.


Steve Cole


Email sent: Sun 1/18/2009 8:41 PM

Hi Steve,
I’m adding your website to My Favorites just now----before I loose it. 
I was planning to scan just the lower LH corner of my McMinnville Map in 1:100,000 scale.  It will be about 8 X 10 and maybe enlarged by the scanner.  I have taken my maps to Kinkos and scanned it into a PDF file.  You can see examples on my site
I’ll send you this scan and you can see if it will work.  It will be big.

Steve Cole


Email sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 9:26 AM


Hey Steve,
Great to hear from you. I would gladly publish the map you are speaking of… it would be very helpful not only for me to get orientated but other visitors. I am very grateful to you for your offer… send when you can.

Best Regards
Steve Speer


Email sent: Wed 12/3/2008 5:51 PM


Hi Steve,

   I was searching the web for any info on Camp Forrest and Tullahoma.  I read your Intro that said you were surprised by the number of visitors to this site.  That made me even more curious.  You have a really nice website and nice layout. 

   I was looking for a history of the Camp because I just purchased a WW2 Corps of Engineers’ map of McMinnville in 1:100,000 scale.  Got it off of eBay, of course.  Tullahoma is at the lower left corner.  Next there is a complex that I was thinking was the secret facility for the Manhattan Project but then I came to my senses and remembered that was at Oakridge and closer to Knoxville.  (My Father-in-law was a carpenter there during the war).

    I also knew that the area was the site of the Army maneuvers.  After reading a book on Darby’s Rangers, I also knew that the 2nd Rangers trained there as well as one paratrooper regiment.  Your site gave me the info that I was looking for----and more.

    As I said, I just bought this pristine map of Camp Forrest Reservation.  I wondered if you would be interested in a scan of the map that you could use on your website.  On my website, I have a page that is about the maps in my collection.  That page gets a lot of hits and many emails.  So, a map on your site would help answer many questions about where it was located and its size and the nearby towns.  Also in my collection of maps is an Aerial Photographic Map of a desolate area that is centered on the other map and includes highway 55 and the southern edge of Smithville. This map is made from photos and has the grid lines and landmarks noted.  Again, these are both maps made in WW2 by the US Army.  They were probably useful in the Maneuvers and in map training.

   I just wanted to drop you a line.  I would like to add your site to my list of Favorite Links.   

Good day.

Steve Cole
Collierville, TN